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There | There were many accelerators for the Apple II over the years. Their speeds and processing ability have all been highly debated. This page was created to help document their test results, and may be updated by the Community. | ||
On July 4th, 2017 Plamen Vaysilov (Пламен Вайсилов) modified SpeedTest for the IIe to use a [[No Slot Clock]] to more carefully time tests. | On July 4th, 2017 Plamen Vaysilov (Пламен Вайсилов) modified SpeedTest for the IIe to use a [[No Slot Clock]] to more carefully time tests. | ||
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*PublishIt! v3 | *PublishIt! v3 | ||
[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hidWcc5zuwDTpEjWdjHOYhxjPakEpOE76nSslFH9ItU/edit#gid=725628178 Antoine Vignau set up a spreadsheet with current known software issues for the FASTChip //e.] | |||
<strong>For the FASTChip //e to work correctly in 16 bit native mode (816 enabled) the CPU >MUST< be removed from your motherboard.<br> | |||
The FASTChip //e's compatibility with the Apple II/II+ is not guaranteed (page 26 of the manual).<br></strong> | |||
== Downloads / Software == | == Downloads / Software == | ||
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File: | File:Floppy_Icon_514sleeve.svg|SpeedTest v2.2.2 with NSC Patch. In "DSK" format. |link=https://wiki.reactivemicro.com/images/a/a2/SpeedTest_v2.2.2_-_NSC_Patch.rar | ||
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SpeedTest Notes: All times are in SECONDS. TIME column is the time in seconds the test | SpeedTest Notes: All times are in SECONDS. TIME column is the time in seconds the test takes on YOUR system. RELATIVE column is how many times faster your test results are compared to a stock IIe. Higher scored INDEX tests are better. Lower scored READ/WRITE tests are better. | ||
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If you are testing an UltraWarp and do not perform these steps the program may not work correctly. | If you are testing an UltraWarp and do not perform these steps the program may not work correctly. | ||
== Accelerator Comparison == | == Accelerator Comparison == | ||
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!colspan="20" style="font-size: 175%;" | <font color="blue">Accelerator Speed Results Using "SpeedTest" for the II/+/e/c.</font> | !colspan="20" style="font-size: 175%;" | <font color="blue">Accelerator Speed Results Using "SpeedTest" for the II/+/e/c.</font> | ||
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|+ style="caption-side:bottom;"| <font color="red">''Notes: Some IIe systems may be slightly faster than others. <br/> | |+ style="caption-side:bottom;"| <font color="red">''Notes: Some IIe systems may be slightly faster than others. <br/>Running the SpeedTest program from a Mass Storage controller can influence some testing. <br/>All testing should be done from a floppy disk for most consistent and accurate results to the chart. <br/>A No Slot Clock is required for accurate test results.''</font> | ||
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! scope="col"| <font color="red">All Times In Seconds</font> | ! scope="col"| <font color="red">All Times In Seconds</font> | ||
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! scope="col"| AE TransWarp<br/>3.6MHz | ! scope="col"| AE TransWarp<br/>3.6MHz | ||
! scope="col"| AE TransWarp][<br/>7MHz | ! scope="col"| AE TransWarp][<br/>7MHz | ||
! scope="col"| FastChip //e<br/>16.6MHz | ! scope="col"| FastChip //e*<br/>16.6MHz | ||
! scope="col"| FastChip //e<br/>20MHz | ! scope="col"| FastChip //e*<br/>20MHz | ||
! scope="col"| McT SpeedDemon<br/>Accelerator II | ! scope="col"| McT SpeedDemon<br/>Accelerator II | ||
! scope="col"| McT SpeedDemon<br/>Accelerator IIe | ! scope="col"| McT SpeedDemon<br/>Accelerator IIe | ||
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<strong>*FastChip //e posted results were reported by designer prerelease. Since its release they have NOT been able to be independently verified by any user and have consistently been lower than what is posted. Several users have emailed ReActiveMicro about this and we are aware of it.<br> | |||
For the FASTChip //e to work correctly in 16 bit native mode (816 enabled) the CPU >MUST< be removed from your motherboard.<br> | |||
The FASTChip //e's compatibility with the Apple II/II+ is not guaranteed (page 26 of the manual).<br></strong> | |||
== AppleSqueezer == | |||
In 2022 AppleSqueezer was released. There are still no official test scores related to the above comparisons and if/when someone reports their results the table will be updated. Here is a user review of a real world comparrision of the AppleSqueezer vs TransWarp GS at the stock speed of 16MHz. | |||
{{#ev:youtube|ZEih9bSuTFo|600|center|Apple IIGS Accelerator Showdown|frame}} | |||
There have been several limitations reported with the AppleSqueezer project. First and foremost was its DMA limit. No DMA is possible when the AppleSqueezer is installed. So the MicroDrive, Apple HighSpeed SCSI, [[RamFAST_SCSI|RAMFast SCSI]], VidHD, and several AE RAM Cards won't work if the AppleSqueezer is installed. So you lose all speed benefits that DMA can offer. This is no simple "update" that can fix with this the AppleSqueezer project as it needs connection to the slots to sense the DMA signal. | |||
Second, due to the size of the AppleSqueezer it blocks slots 2 to 4 and almost no cards can be installed in those slots as they would hit or contact the AppleSqueezer. | |||
Lastly, the motherboard CPU male mating header on the AppleSqueezer is a round male pin variety. These pins are at least 18mils wide and are outside the recommended mating spec with motherboard CPU dual wipe socket. So the CPU socket is "stretched" and there is a good chance that once you remove the AppleSqueezer the CPU or TransWarp CPU Cable will no longer mate well, or at all. | |||
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Latest revision as of 06:30, 3 May 2023
To better track IIe Accelerator testing this page has been created. Please update the table below with your findings.
As with any page on this Wiki, use the Discussion page (link above) to discuss your findings or related topics.
History
There were many accelerators for the Apple II over the years. Their speeds and processing ability have all been highly debated. This page was created to help document their test results, and may be updated by the Community.
On July 4th, 2017 Plamen Vaysilov (Пламен Вайсилов) modified SpeedTest for the IIe to use a No Slot Clock to more carefully time tests.
Software With Accelerator Issues
These titles are known to have issues with some accelerators.
- PublishIt! v3
Antoine Vignau set up a spreadsheet with current known software issues for the FASTChip //e.
For the FASTChip //e to work correctly in 16 bit native mode (816 enabled) the CPU >MUST< be removed from your motherboard.
The FASTChip //e's compatibility with the Apple II/II+ is not guaranteed (page 26 of the manual).
Downloads / Software
As other software is written it will be posted here and the comparison charts updated / added.
-
SpeedTest v2.2.2 with NSC Patch. In "DSK" format.
SpeedTest Notes: All times are in SECONDS. TIME column is the time in seconds the test takes on YOUR system. RELATIVE column is how many times faster your test results are compared to a stock IIe. Higher scored INDEX tests are better. Lower scored READ/WRITE tests are better.
NOTE: To correctly test the UltraWarp you must do the following steps BEFORE testing.
- Boot SpeedTest disk and load the SpeedTest program.
- From the SpeedTest menu exit to BASIC.
- Type CALL-151 and press Enter.
- Type C081 and press Enter.
- Type C081 again and press Enter. (both times are required)
- Type D000<D000.FFFFM and press Enter.
- Type C083 and press Enter.
- Type 9DBFG and press Enter to get back to BASIC.
- Type RUN to restart the SpeedTest program.
If you are testing an UltraWarp and do not perform these steps the program may not work correctly.
Accelerator Comparison
Accelerator Speed Results Using "SpeedTest" for the II/+/e/c. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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All Times In Seconds | //e 1.024MHz |
IIc+ 4MHz |
AE TransWarp 3.6MHz |
AE TransWarp][ 7MHz |
FastChip //e* 16.6MHz |
FastChip //e* 20MHz |
McT SpeedDemon Accelerator II |
McT SpeedDemon Accelerator IIe |
Titan Technologies Accelerator IIe |
UltraWarp V1.91G 16.6MHz |
ZIPChip 4 Mhz |
ZIPChip 8 Mhz | ||||||||
CPU Index | 1 | 3.605 | 3.083 | 5.760 | 15.23 | 17.61 | 3.150 | 3.160 | 2.970 | 13.59 | 3.782 | 6.022 | ||||||||
Text Index | 1 | 2.301 | 1.338 | 4.000 | 2.048 | 2.014 | 2.201 | 2.229 | 1.327 | 1.375 | 2.495 | 3.180 | ||||||||
Video Index | 1 | 3.632 | 2.519 | 5.822 | 5.086 | 5.184 | 3.229 | 3.274 | 2.310 | 4.365 | 3.925 | 6.130 | ||||||||
ABOVE Scores: Larger=Better / BELOW Scores: Smaller=Better | ||||||||||||||||||||
Memory Read | 119.2 | 32 | 37 | 18 | 7 | 6 | 36 | 37 | 38 | 8 | 30 | 17 | ||||||||
Memory Write | 119.2 | 34 | 59 | 30 | 29 | 51 | 41 | 41 | 63 | 52 | 32 | 31 | ||||||||
Memory Read (Zero Page) |
119.6 | 32 | 37 | 18 | 7 | 6 | 37 | 36 | 38 | 7 | 30 | 17 | ||||||||
Memory Write (Zero Page) |
119.6 | 34 | 37 | 37 | 7 | 6 | 43 | 43 | 38 | 7 | 41 | 35 | ||||||||
Indirect References | 124 | 35 | 40 | 20 | 8 | 7 | 39 | 39 | 41 | 13 | 33 | 19 | ||||||||
Branch Calculations | 119.3 | 32 | 37 | 18 | 7 | 6 | 37 | 36 | 38 | 0 | 30 | 17 | ||||||||
Register Variables | 83.3 | 24 | 26 | 13 | 5 | 4 | 26 | 26 | 27 | 6 | 21 | 12 | ||||||||
Instruction Fetch | 114 | 31 | 35 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 35 | 35 | 37 | 8 | 30 | 17 | ||||||||
CPU Instruction Mix | 114 | 33 | 35 | 21 | 7 | 6 | 35 | 35 | 37 | 7 | 30 | 20 | ||||||||
Direct Text Writes | 115 | 36 | 67 | 24 | 43 | 43 | 38 | 37 | 67 | 63 | 34 | 26 | ||||||||
Direct Text Writes #2 | 118 | 37 | 68 | 24 | 43 | 43 | 38 | 38 | 69 | 65 | 35 | 26 | ||||||||
BIOS Text Write | 117 | 224 | 208 | 51 | 161 | 187 | 247 | 246 | 211 | 241 | 232 | 202 | ||||||||
Direct LoRes Writes | 118 | 32 | 51 | 21 | 25 | 21 | 36 | 36 | 54 | 36 | 30 | 20 | ||||||||
High-Res Memory Writes | 114.5 | 32 | 42 | 19 | 21 | 18 | 36 | 35 | 47 | 21 | 29 | 18 |
*FastChip //e posted results were reported by designer prerelease. Since its release they have NOT been able to be independently verified by any user and have consistently been lower than what is posted. Several users have emailed ReActiveMicro about this and we are aware of it.
For the FASTChip //e to work correctly in 16 bit native mode (816 enabled) the CPU >MUST< be removed from your motherboard.
The FASTChip //e's compatibility with the Apple II/II+ is not guaranteed (page 26 of the manual).
AppleSqueezer
In 2022 AppleSqueezer was released. There are still no official test scores related to the above comparisons and if/when someone reports their results the table will be updated. Here is a user review of a real world comparrision of the AppleSqueezer vs TransWarp GS at the stock speed of 16MHz.
There have been several limitations reported with the AppleSqueezer project. First and foremost was its DMA limit. No DMA is possible when the AppleSqueezer is installed. So the MicroDrive, Apple HighSpeed SCSI, RAMFast SCSI, VidHD, and several AE RAM Cards won't work if the AppleSqueezer is installed. So you lose all speed benefits that DMA can offer. This is no simple "update" that can fix with this the AppleSqueezer project as it needs connection to the slots to sense the DMA signal.
Second, due to the size of the AppleSqueezer it blocks slots 2 to 4 and almost no cards can be installed in those slots as they would hit or contact the AppleSqueezer.
Lastly, the motherboard CPU male mating header on the AppleSqueezer is a round male pin variety. These pins are at least 18mils wide and are outside the recommended mating spec with motherboard CPU dual wipe socket. So the CPU socket is "stretched" and there is a good chance that once you remove the AppleSqueezer the CPU or TransWarp CPU Cable will no longer mate well, or at all.